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crucial negative moment for susan rice. a lot of the discourse from the democrats about susan rice, she is a victim of sexism and/or racism and the extreme right of the party. then along comes a woman senator known as a moderate to give her a bad review on the meeting. i had the feeling at the time and i guess i have been vindicated that was the beginning of the end for susan rice. in recent days she started to take fire from environmentalists to being too close to keystone pipeline. she started to take fire from some human rights folk wos say when she was in the clinton administration she was too close to african-american -- african dictators too. in m straws on the camel's back. >> chuck makes a point that is the most loud cross -- he is not making it, but ludicrous talking points. the racist, sexism republicans were waiting in the weeds until the fifth nonwhite male secretary of state would be appointed, and they pounced. we haven't had a white male secretary of state since larry eagleberger 20 years ago. george bush nev
crucial negative moment for susan rice. a lot of the discourse from the democrats about susan rice, she is a victim of sexism and/or racism and the extreme right of the party. then along comes a woman senator known as a moderate to give her a bad review on the meeting. i had the feeling at the time and i guess i have been vindicated that was the beginning of the end for susan rice. in recent days she started to take fire from environmentalists to being too close to keystone pipeline. she...
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susan rice very much in more of the hawkish camp. she was along with hillary clinton one of the two people that really sort of pushed the national security team to be more aggressive on the libya front during the decision to have the -- to create that no-fly zone. john kerry has a history of being a little more dovish, if you will, voting against a lot of interventions. so how much of an intervention would she be, there was actually a philosophical issue, if you will. i think on paper, the president likes both of them. knows it's important to john kerry and believes john kerry earned the right to be secretary of state, more than fully qualified, but i think in his heart of hearts, his heart was telling him susan rice but he was getting political advice ha said, is this a fight worth having? you've got a lot of fights you're going to have on capitol hill in the next six to nine months, including the one you're in the middle ever now. is this one worth it? >> but, chuck, this woman was highly qualified. she's a rhodes scholar. she has
susan rice very much in more of the hawkish camp. she was along with hillary clinton one of the two people that really sort of pushed the national security team to be more aggressive on the libya front during the decision to have the -- to create that no-fly zone. john kerry has a history of being a little more dovish, if you will, voting against a lot of interventions. so how much of an intervention would she be, there was actually a philosophical issue, if you will. i think on paper, the...
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the second big story is susan rice. in the last couple of hours calling the president and saying she is pulling her name out of consideration for secretary of state, all because of the controversy over benghazi, her reaction to the terror attack, whether or not she misled the public. bottom line this puts john kerry, democratic sources say, as the likely contender to be secretary of state i'm seeing the suvs pull up with speaker boehner right now. both the stories breaking right as we speak. you will see speaker boehner in a moment. but bottom line is you will remember at the post election news conference, the president made a big deal about standing up for susan rice. saying that basically, she was -- [ inaudible ] not going to stand for attacks threatened filibuster. this is a cave-in by the president. he gave in to the critics on the hill. susan rice may not be disappearing. it posted a story saying the top democrats say she may be the next national security advisor here inside the white house. significant that the p
the second big story is susan rice. in the last couple of hours calling the president and saying she is pulling her name out of consideration for secretary of state, all because of the controversy over benghazi, her reaction to the terror attack, whether or not she misled the public. bottom line this puts john kerry, democratic sources say, as the likely contender to be secretary of state i'm seeing the suvs pull up with speaker boehner right now. both the stories breaking right as we speak....
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susan rice. will she be the president's secretary of state nominee and could she get confirmed in the senate at this point? >> i can't say that because the president has not told me what his decision will be. there have been two excellent names mentioned, ambassador rice and my colleague, senator kerry. either one of them would have a tough job following the great job of hillary clinton, but they could both serve this country in an extraordinary way as secretary of state. >> you're saying that rice could get confirmed? >> i do believe so. i think at the end, some of the criticisms against her have been unwarranted. many have gone just too far. there is really a basic feeling of fairness. she is an extraordinary person. she's certainly well educated and has really served our nation well as ambassador to the united nations. >> all right. and msnbc's lawrence o'donnell. all coming up after the break. >>> "me >>> coming up here, as hillary clinton prepares to step down as secretary of state, her popu
susan rice. will she be the president's secretary of state nominee and could she get confirmed in the senate at this point? >> i can't say that because the president has not told me what his decision will be. there have been two excellent names mentioned, ambassador rice and my colleague, senator kerry. either one of them would have a tough job following the great job of hillary clinton, but they could both serve this country in an extraordinary way as secretary of state. >> you're...
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susan rice will be fine. she's going to go on and do great things for the country. but we've lost a public servant. and the president has been thwarted. and i think this boeds terribly for the supposed, new bipartisan cooperation that we're all supposed to hope for. >> congresswoman, we've also seen a blatant double standard. in november, matt lowe, he con fronted mccane about why he stood up for condolisa rice after a mass of intelligence failure in 2005. let me show you both the question and the response and get you to give me your view on this. >> you said opponents were expressing sour grapes after an election loss. why is this different? >> because every intelligence agency in the world, including the british, believe iraq had weapons of mass destruction. that was an entirely different situation. >> so when the intelligence believed there were weapons of mass destruction that were not there, it was fine because they believed it. but when they give susan rice talking points that they believe to be true, all of the sudden, she's not bright. she can't be trusted.
susan rice will be fine. she's going to go on and do great things for the country. but we've lost a public servant. and the president has been thwarted. and i think this boeds terribly for the supposed, new bipartisan cooperation that we're all supposed to hope for. >> congresswoman, we've also seen a blatant double standard. in november, matt lowe, he con fronted mccane about why he stood up for condolisa rice after a mass of intelligence failure in 2005. let me show you both the...
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susan rice is somebody they know very well. they're very loyal to her. this is somebody who has worked her way up through the diplomatic ranks in a way that's different from john kerry. john kerry worked his way up to the political ranks. susan rice has done every job you need to have done in unelected politics, if you will, to be qualified, to have the resume, to have the experience to be secretary of state. and, by the way, don't forget there was also the fact that kerry and rice in some ways some could argue see the world a little bit differently. susan rice is somebody a little more of an interventionist. wants to get involved. look at libya. she was somebody that was strongly there. john kerry is somebody who has seen war firsthand and is somebody who is very much hesitant as an interventionist when it comes to things. voted against things. so there was a lot here i think that was more than just am i going to do something with my friend or do something to reward the party. more complicated than that. >> i guess that's why as a commentator i feel mor
susan rice is somebody they know very well. they're very loyal to her. this is somebody who has worked her way up through the diplomatic ranks in a way that's different from john kerry. john kerry worked his way up to the political ranks. susan rice has done every job you need to have done in unelected politics, if you will, to be qualified, to have the resume, to have the experience to be secretary of state. and, by the way, don't forget there was also the fact that kerry and rice in some ways...
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to get from susan rice. so that certainly did not help susan rice. it seemed to poison the well for her even more than it was before. so there isn't a big surprise here. even democrats, again, who i talked to, say that she was incredibly competent. that she is very, very smart. but that there might be a personality issue that makes them reluctant to have her as the person representing the u.s. in the role of secretary of state. but they also say that just as jessica said, that she might be very well suited to be the president's national security adviser, because there isn't confirmation there, and it's more inherently political. to your answer about john kerry, there certainly is a lot of support for him here. there is a member of the senate club. he has been for years and years. he is currently the senate foreign relations chairman. and he has not really made it that much of a secret that he wants this job. has for years and years. and it's been really kind of awkward and uncomfortable, frankly, as there's
to get from susan rice. so that certainly did not help susan rice. it seemed to poison the well for her even more than it was before. so there isn't a big surprise here. even democrats, again, who i talked to, say that she was incredibly competent. that she is very, very smart. but that there might be a personality issue that makes them reluctant to have her as the person representing the u.s. in the role of secretary of state. but they also say that just as jessica said, that she might be very...
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he really wanted susan rice. and then it became clear that she had problems that were identified by john mccain and others who found her too political. they thought that she made it worse by going up to the hill u and i was told by people very close to the president that he would have withdrawn or asked her to withdraw sooner but did not want to back down in the face of opposition from john mccain. >> andrea mitchell, part of our team covering this story. we do want to let you know that ambassador rice will be speaking to us exclusively for tonight's broadcast of "rock center," 10:00 eastern/9 central time. we will hear from the ambassador as to her reasoning for, again, wi withdrawing hear hurricane rita name from consideration as the next possible sochls we will see you again on "nbc nightly news" this evening. for our team in washington, i'm brian williams, nbc news. >> you heard it there, susan rice will not be the next secretary of state. my quick two thoughts here. i'm rye relieved, someone following the li
he really wanted susan rice. and then it became clear that she had problems that were identified by john mccain and others who found her too political. they thought that she made it worse by going up to the hill u and i was told by people very close to the president that he would have withdrawn or asked her to withdraw sooner but did not want to back down in the face of opposition from john mccain. >> andrea mitchell, part of our team covering this story. we do want to let you know that...
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ambassador susan rice will not affect his choice. >> have republicans' attacks against susan rice sort of boxed you into a corner, would it look like a sign of weakness if you did not appoint her to secretary of state? >> no, i don't really spend a lot of time on what folks say on cable news programs attacking highly qualified personnel like susan rice. susan rice has done a great job as u.n. ambassador, but i haven't made a decision about secretary of state. >> nothing wrong with cable news programs. meantime, sam stein is reporting top democrats believe republicans are using the fight over susan rice to force the white house into an appointment of senator john kerry. how come? well, get this. according to sam, though democrats believe republicans want to regain the lost seat in massachusetts by forcing a runoff election for john kerry's spot if he is named. we hear scott brown may be looking for work. >>> well, turning now to more serious news overseas, with the growing concern, the syrian government came resort to using chemical weapon, turkey is building up its defenses along its s
ambassador susan rice will not affect his choice. >> have republicans' attacks against susan rice sort of boxed you into a corner, would it look like a sign of weakness if you did not appoint her to secretary of state? >> no, i don't really spend a lot of time on what folks say on cable news programs attacking highly qualified personnel like susan rice. susan rice has done a great job as u.n. ambassador, but i haven't made a decision about secretary of state. >> nothing wrong...
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you had a moderate republican in susan collins within days who met with susan rice. she came out saying i'm not sure i can support this nomination if she's nominated. when you have a moderate republican who is a supporter of the president's democratic nominees saying i'm not sure about this, a female senator in susan collins, it was clear the votes were not there for susan rice to be secretary of state. >> thank you very much. >>> mike emanuel, who we were talking to about the john boehner and president obama meeting, there's another piece of news. >> a lot of people on capitol hill are wonder whether the president wanted a fight over the next secretary of state. a lot of republican senators here were saying that essentially he should have the person that he wants in that role but they had serious reservations about susan rice. so after she came up here to try to clear up the misunderstandings over benghazi or answer their questions, a lot were irritated after the meeting. susan collins withdrawing support, who is a moderate. john mccain, lindsey graham from south ca
you had a moderate republican in susan collins within days who met with susan rice. she came out saying i'm not sure i can support this nomination if she's nominated. when you have a moderate republican who is a supporter of the president's democratic nominees saying i'm not sure about this, a female senator in susan collins, it was clear the votes were not there for susan rice to be secretary of state. >> thank you very much. >>> mike emanuel, who we were talking to about the...
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there's got to be another great job for susan rice. i would have to say maybe national security advisor when tom donelan moves along. she deserves it. we need her in a position like that. >> jennifer: yeah, she's one sharp cookie, for sure. it kills me, too that the right won on that if that's, in fact, what happened. let's turn quickly, bill, to the fiscal cliff because as we speak, john boehner and the president are meeting. here's what house speaker john boehner said today about the president's mandate. take a listen. >> it was a mandate for both parties to work together, to take on the big challenges that our country is facing. republicans are ready and eager to do just that. we made a reasonable offer. it is now up to the white house to show us how they're going to cut spending and give us the balanced agreement that the president has talked about for weeks. >> jennifer: okay, bill, you were at the white house today. what's going to happen? >> bill: well, let me just say first, i'm so -- i try to be as objective as i can hello. i'
there's got to be another great job for susan rice. i would have to say maybe national security advisor when tom donelan moves along. she deserves it. we need her in a position like that. >> jennifer: yeah, she's one sharp cookie, for sure. it kills me, too that the right won on that if that's, in fact, what happened. let's turn quickly, bill, to the fiscal cliff because as we speak, john boehner and the president are meeting. here's what house speaker john boehner said today about the...
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. >> what's happened is if susan rice has taken a beating. we look at her favorability now in the new nbc news-wall street journal poll -- our poll -- it shows she only has a 20% favorable rating. neutral 25%. disapproval, 24%. for someone that isn't that well known, she has been associated with just this fight and just benghazi. >> the biggest number at all is most people don't know enough about her to make up their opinion. as we know, the way politics worse is that absence two sides of a debate, one side will win. if there is one piece of information, it's all been pretty negative about her so far. i do think there is a risk for republicans regardless of whether they will say that if they proceed with a pretty ugly i think there are problems with terms of tone and how aggress he have the republicans want to be seen as going after her especially because so many attacks are over this benghazi issue and over talking points, and -- >> she had nothing -- >> look. her critics make other arguments, and you can debate the substance of that, but ma
. >> what's happened is if susan rice has taken a beating. we look at her favorability now in the new nbc news-wall street journal poll -- our poll -- it shows she only has a 20% favorable rating. neutral 25%. disapproval, 24%. for someone that isn't that well known, she has been associated with just this fight and just benghazi. >> the biggest number at all is most people don't know enough about her to make up their opinion. as we know, the way politics worse is that absence two...
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what it's trying to figure out a way if in fact it wants to make the susan rice fight which is visually going to be a difficult fight, and if it does, how hard will it fight and how far is it willing to push? there are those who argue, look, if you put cbs news rice in the national security council and i will put senator kennedy up-- >> kerry. >> senator kerry from the senate up to nominate for secretary of state. the problem with that is tom donnell and the existing national security adviser doesn't want to leave and has no intention of going. that's complicated math inside the white house, and for the administration. all the other positions, the thought is, jacques lugar goes to treasury, to replace secretary geithner, but who would replace him as chief of staff. >> tom donelan. >> the final decisions haven't been made and there are a lot of pieces on the chess board. >> schieffer: is this because of the fiskal cliff thing that is gog that they haven't focused on who is going to serve? >> they don't want to pick a fight with capitol hill. it will be something they have to deal with be
what it's trying to figure out a way if in fact it wants to make the susan rice fight which is visually going to be a difficult fight, and if it does, how hard will it fight and how far is it willing to push? there are those who argue, look, if you put cbs news rice in the national security council and i will put senator kennedy up-- >> kerry. >> senator kerry from the senate up to nominate for secretary of state. the problem with that is tom donnell and the existing national...
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all he has been doing is taking on susan rice. >> he is on to this one. it's going to be a great test for the president. it's clear the president wants to nominate her. it's clear he has not made that decision final. if he does, there's going to be a heck of a fight. it's going to put republicans in a box. they're going to have to make some decisions. at least lindsey graham and john mccain seem to be of one mind on this. >> going back to john mccain, though, this is a case of senatorial stalking. he was -- he had to give up the chairmanship of the armed services committee. he was term limited out in terms of the republican roles, so he went looking for another place where he could kind of do the same thing. >> he has found a corner of his own, but i think what is ironic here, mark, is that the republicans have rallied around john kerry anti-war hero who they swift boated less than ten years ago as the new secretary of state. >> the voice of reason. no, it's amazing to see how this happens. he and john mccain are best friends again. he called him mr. pres
all he has been doing is taking on susan rice. >> he is on to this one. it's going to be a great test for the president. it's clear the president wants to nominate her. it's clear he has not made that decision final. if he does, there's going to be a heck of a fight. it's going to put republicans in a box. they're going to have to make some decisions. at least lindsey graham and john mccain seem to be of one mind on this. >> going back to john mccain, though, this is a case of...
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jimmy, when it does come to susan rice, why is john mccain going after her so forcefully, basically giving a pass to secretary of state hillary clinton, but going after rice. >> it's interesting, because that is the committee of jurisdiction. any nomination will be sent to the committee for an up or down vote. with jim demint resigning, there's an opening on the committee and john mccain wants it. he's already lost his ranking membership on the commerce committee, so what's john mccain, the elder statesman supposed to do, be the most junior freshman of the foreign relations committee that he's going to try to stop any nomination brought to the hill for secretary of state. it's a very interesting move on his part. >> meanwhile, there's been grand speculation of whether or not this nomination will rise up and go forward. republicans have certainly been forcefully trying to stomp that down and even promote john kerry to that role, but does the president get backed into the corner by the fact republicans have been so opposed by this, does he need to nominate rice to make a statement? >> he nee
jimmy, when it does come to susan rice, why is john mccain going after her so forcefully, basically giving a pass to secretary of state hillary clinton, but going after rice. >> it's interesting, because that is the committee of jurisdiction. any nomination will be sent to the committee for an up or down vote. with jim demint resigning, there's an opening on the committee and john mccain wants it. he's already lost his ranking membership on the commerce committee, so what's john mccain,...
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ambassador susan rice is removing herself from the running to be secretary of state. this, of course, in the wake of the big discussion about just exactly what she said in the wake of the benghazi attack that kill our ambassador to iraq, and, clearly, this is a developing story, but soon san rice removing herself from the running to be secretary of state. apparently, it's become a distraction for the president. we'll follow that story as well, back to your play, amazon. i have to push you. they are a company, and i love them, baa they get a sale at any price. margins are so thin, and the pe ratio, the multiple is insane here. the price to earnings ratio, so insane, it got its own special graphic. >> the growth rate is equally impressive, and i think some of that is not showing up, and this could double. >> 143 versus 14 of the s&p. we got excited. we made a graphic. not a surprise to anyone it's been going, but better growth players like a google, for example? >> google is certainly a good play as well. i just think that if you're looking for something to buy today, t
ambassador susan rice is removing herself from the running to be secretary of state. this, of course, in the wake of the big discussion about just exactly what she said in the wake of the benghazi attack that kill our ambassador to iraq, and, clearly, this is a developing story, but soon san rice removing herself from the running to be secretary of state. apparently, it's become a distraction for the president. we'll follow that story as well, back to your play, amazon. i have to push you. they...
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ambassador susan rice is not qualified for the job. the iranians claim they have captured another iranian spy plane, even showed the things off on their televisions today. we will hear what u.s. officials have to say about this drone as we approach the bottom of the hour and the top of the news but i'm still "stubbed" up. [ male announcer ] truth is, nyquil doesn't unstuff your nose. what? [ male announcer ] it doesn't have a decongestant. no way. [ male announcer ] sorry. alka-seltzer plus fights your worst cold symptoms plus has a fast acting decongestant to relieve your stuffy nose. [ sighs ] thanks! [ male announcer ] you're welcome. that's the cold truth! [ male announcer ] alka-seltzer plus. ♪ oh what a relief it is! ♪ [ male announcer ] to learn more about the cold truth and save $1 visit alka-seltzer on facebook. et the 5-passengerr ] to learn moreford c-max hybrid.uth when you're carrying a lot of weight, c-max has a nice little trait, you see, c-max helps you load your freight, with its foot-activated lift gate. but that'
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i have a feeling that susan rice will be national security advisor and you don't need senate confirm ailings foation . >> her job is to represent the united states. >> did she represent the united states when she decided to go on those sunday shows and even though she had read those classified documents, she went and told the story that was not true. did she represent the united states? well, i think the american people can decide that for themselves. i would state that i don't believe she did represent the cause of justice or really give us the truth and information about what we need to know, what we knew at the time to give us some answers about the deaths of four americans. i get, you have such a great gretawire account on twitter. i'm always following you. people who are tweeting you and tweeting me, they're like what's going on with benghazi? why don't we know more about what happened to these people those are four americans dead and we're going other the fiscal cliff. there's still unresolved issues. >> what i don't get is if there are four murders in any town or city in this
i have a feeling that susan rice will be national security advisor and you don't need senate confirm ailings foation . >> her job is to represent the united states. >> did she represent the united states when she decided to go on those sunday shows and even though she had read those classified documents, she went and told the story that was not true. did she represent the united states? well, i think the american people can decide that for themselves. i would state that i don't...
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rice and susan rice is hanging out there now, and everyone -- all of her critics are taking shots at her. is there any reason to want to try to move this more quickly, the cabinet selection? what goes on behind the scenes here? >> i would take some exception with the way you describe it, andrea. look, these are important decisions. john kerry, senator kerry, and ambassador rice are extremely well qualified. obviously, there's been a lot of news around the ambassador over the last number of months by virtue of them benghazi situation. she is extremely well qualified. the president knows that. he is not iffing to be forced into a decision by virtue of the chatter that's out there in the street and the politics, and i think he is going about it in a deliberate way. there are a lot of other issues also going on that he deals with on a daily basis that are very real-time, and you also have the fiscal cliff problem. he i don't feel has the secretary of state who has said she will stay in in national hockey league a replacement is there. it is normal to get that done right before the inaugu
rice and susan rice is hanging out there now, and everyone -- all of her critics are taking shots at her. is there any reason to want to try to move this more quickly, the cabinet selection? what goes on behind the scenes here? >> i would take some exception with the way you describe it, andrea. look, these are important decisions. john kerry, senator kerry, and ambassador rice are extremely well qualified. obviously, there's been a lot of news around the ambassador over the last number...
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and i don't think they want to get into a battle over susan rice. i think they would much rather have john kerry because they know who he is. >> maria, same question. what does she have to do, then? >> here's the frustration. i'll say what she has to do, but here's the frustration with this whole discussion. the focus is so much on what she said or didn't say, whether she carried the party line or not. can we remember another secretary of state named rice who actually did carry the party line that took us into unnecessary war? so when republicans focus on that, i think it's a little bit hypocritica hypocritical. the second thing is, if we really want to focus on what happened in benghazi, attacking susan rice does not get to the heart of what happened in benghazi. she had nothing to do with what happened in benghazi. let's talk about the talking points if that's what they want to talk about. let's talk about the cia and whether there was a flap there with the talking points. focusing on susan rice does not get us on where we need to be on fixing the
and i don't think they want to get into a battle over susan rice. i think they would much rather have john kerry because they know who he is. >> maria, same question. what does she have to do, then? >> here's the frustration. i'll say what she has to do, but here's the frustration with this whole discussion. the focus is so much on what she said or didn't say, whether she carried the party line or not. can we remember another secretary of state named rice who actually did carry the...
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we're told the president's still not decided about susan rice versus john kerry, and now there are a number of other players because this is a domino bit of business, where if susan rice goes to the senate department instead of john kerry, it would mean that someone else, probably tom donna lin will remain as chief of -- as national security adviser. it would open up the u.n. ambassador's job for samantha power. look at some of the players in play here. you have a team being weighed and balanced. susan, what are you hearing as to which way the president might go? >> you know, i think that you would have to talk -- the true answer is i don't know which way the president is going to go. i think he's in a box. he's gotten himself in a pickle here. it seems clear his preference is susan rice for state and that's buying an argument he knows that's buying a fight with the senate for confirmation. if he goes with her he's going to spend political capital there. if he doesn't go for her now, does it indicate he's backing off in the face of opposition which might send a signal. i think this w
we're told the president's still not decided about susan rice versus john kerry, and now there are a number of other players because this is a domino bit of business, where if susan rice goes to the senate department instead of john kerry, it would mean that someone else, probably tom donna lin will remain as chief of -- as national security adviser. it would open up the u.n. ambassador's job for samantha power. look at some of the players in play here. you have a team being weighed and...
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it's not super news but state senator john kerry, un ambassador susan rice. i asked the president whether or not he felt the republican criticisms and attacks on susan rice has sort of boxed him in a corner, make it so that he looks weak if he doesn't go ahead and nominate her. he tried to brush that aside but said, sang her praises and also said he hasn't made an announcement yet. so there's a bit of a trying to shuffle positions around here because one decision, if you name susan rice secretary of state then that opens the door, officials are saying, you could see kerry as defense secretary or he could bring in republican former senator chuck hagel is also a name for secretary and also potentially a name for c.i.a. as well. >> rose: in term of the treasury the name you most frequently higher is the chief of staff jack lou. is that the name you're hearing the most. >> that's the name we're hearing but it gets calculated because jack lou is a principal negotiator in the fiscal cliff talks. he was a negotiator back in the debt limit talks back in the summer of
it's not super news but state senator john kerry, un ambassador susan rice. i asked the president whether or not he felt the republican criticisms and attacks on susan rice has sort of boxed him in a corner, make it so that he looks weak if he doesn't go ahead and nominate her. he tried to brush that aside but said, sang her praises and also said he hasn't made an announcement yet. so there's a bit of a trying to shuffle positions around here because one decision, if you name susan rice...
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but this issue, i think about libya and susan rice, has gone way far enough. she doesn't have anything to prove. >> go ahead, mary. >> it's not about libya. it's not about benghazi, which we now know the facts are that the administration handled very, very badly. what senator lieberman said is right. this is not about a sunday morning talk show. it's not about whether or not senators mccain and others are upset at the president. if you look at her u.n. record and, more importantly, her state department record, senator albright was furious with her and put her on probation. she has a terrible record among professional diplomats in the same -- i don't know if she was a terrible desk officer from ethiopia, genocide, which is the president says is one of his greatest regrets or mistakes, those were all on his watch. if she did such a terrible job there, how can she be a secretary? >> the president has been able to rehash that old garbage that mary is talking about. they have not done so now. they are talking about trumped-up charges and old regrets and on issues t
but this issue, i think about libya and susan rice, has gone way far enough. she doesn't have anything to prove. >> go ahead, mary. >> it's not about libya. it's not about benghazi, which we now know the facts are that the administration handled very, very badly. what senator lieberman said is right. this is not about a sunday morning talk show. it's not about whether or not senators mccain and others are upset at the president. if you look at her u.n. record and, more importantly,...
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there have been voices thought wondered why she has not been scrutinized as much as susan rice or general david petraeus, into matter, even though he was slightly scrutinized about that as well? >> that is a fair inkwurry. secretary clint, as you recall, right before the debates, took full responsible for the what happened in ben gas zip. and she was the secretary of state. were there mistakes made in the department? yes. were they her mistakes, probably not. but as head of the department she takes responsibility for them. i agree with chris her performance, i can't remember in my lifetime, a secretary of state as effective. this problem, and this is a problem, will be a very, very minor thing on her record as secretary of state o >> it depends on how this hearing goes, you have republicans who reportedly behind the scenes fearful to take her on if they decide to launch an assault if they can't, if you will, get their hoornsd susan rice, unfollowing go after the former cis director, general david petraeus, might she be the target? >> i doubt t i don't think that would be a smart strategy
there have been voices thought wondered why she has not been scrutinized as much as susan rice or general david petraeus, into matter, even though he was slightly scrutinized about that as well? >> that is a fair inkwurry. secretary clint, as you recall, right before the debates, took full responsible for the what happened in ben gas zip. and she was the secretary of state. were there mistakes made in the department? yes. were they her mistakes, probably not. but as head of the department...
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when you look at john kerry versus susan rice, who is the hawk and who is the dove? >> the truth is in this administration, the president is his own chief strategist. the secretary of state implements the president's policy. hillary clinton has been a superb secretary of state because she has recognized that. policy making is done in the white house by the president. she gets to be the global ambassador at large for the united states. so neither of them is going to be making policy. barack obama is going to be making policy. >> thanks very much, fareed. appreciate it as also. this sunday, don't miss tough decisions, a fareed zakaria gps special where he's going to talk to u.s. leaders about the tough decisions they had to make around the world. this sunday at 8:00 and 11:00 p.m. on cnn. >>> up next, the u.s. postal service, $20 million, that's how much they lose every single day. could this be the post office's last christmas? >>> and an elite navy s.e.a.l. was killed in afghanistan this weekend. the country will be visiting this week. tonight, i ask the chairman of
when you look at john kerry versus susan rice, who is the hawk and who is the dove? >> the truth is in this administration, the president is his own chief strategist. the secretary of state implements the president's policy. hillary clinton has been a superb secretary of state because she has recognized that. policy making is done in the white house by the president. she gets to be the global ambassador at large for the united states. so neither of them is going to be making policy....
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if he succeeds it would give him a seat to grill susan rice if nominated as secretary of state. senator mccain is one of her harshest republican critics and the first read team notes it may not be just about susan rice. >>> and yale university is out with its most notable quotes of 2012. and most deal with politics. here are the top three. president obama's you didn't build that. at number two, mitt romney's reference to binders full of women. and number one, you know it and know it very well. the 47% comment. those are the things we just thought you should know. >>> and time now for the "news nation" gut check. when michigan becomes the 24th right to work state as expected, it will deal a major blow to the labor union movement. today, uaw president bob king struck a defiant tone. 'these right-wing republicans are making a huge mistake. they're waking up a sleeping giant. people are angry. >> but our first read team says it may be time for labor to look past the fight over right to work laws writing for labor there's no evidence they're going to be able to win this right to work
if he succeeds it would give him a seat to grill susan rice if nominated as secretary of state. senator mccain is one of her harshest republican critics and the first read team notes it may not be just about susan rice. >>> and yale university is out with its most notable quotes of 2012. and most deal with politics. here are the top three. president obama's you didn't build that. at number two, mitt romney's reference to binders full of women. and number one, you know it and know it...
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would president make a mistake to nominate susan rice as secretary of state? >> i do think that embassador rice is viewed as a political operative and i don't think he's going to nominate her. as i have said, i'll give any nominee a fair hearing and i will in this case. but i think the president realizes on both sides of the aisle there are a lot of concerns there's a fact these a political operative and not viewed as a principal. >> let me just quickly -- you don't think she would pass the senate? >> well, i don't know what will happen. obviously there are many people like me that always give nominees a fair hearing. i don't think she's going to be nominated for a lot of reasons. >> senator schumer? >> yeah, the solution here, a lot of republicans don't want to vote for susan rice if she's nominated by the president. they shouldn't filibuster. they don't have to vote but don't require 60 votes. that's traditionally what is done with presidential cabinet nominees when a president is elected or regleeked we have to leave it there. senator schumer and senator co
would president make a mistake to nominate susan rice as secretary of state? >> i do think that embassador rice is viewed as a political operative and i don't think he's going to nominate her. as i have said, i'll give any nominee a fair hearing and i will in this case. but i think the president realizes on both sides of the aisle there are a lot of concerns there's a fact these a political operative and not viewed as a principal. >> let me just quickly -- you don't think she would...
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i do know that our ambassador susan rice is qualified rhodes scholar, she is a brilliant woman, worked in the national security, within that team. she knows what she's doing, has done her job well, isen a expert and deserves a fair hearing. do not airport her. do not make it appear that she has not done her job when in fact what she was doing was her job. if the president wants to put her name forward she needs a fair hearing and she is such a well-qualified woman that i hope quite frankly that the president does put her name forward. >> eliot: if there was ever a case where the messager was being shot, she didn't write the information she put forth the c.i.a. did. senator mccain was going after her, some thought there was a personal feud. >> it's hard to imagine but senator mccain should be praising her for doing her job well especially when you have national security crisis, you want most of our officials you want everyone to be on the same page. she was on the same page, so he should be saluting her applauding her and really not providing these kind of horrible statements about her.
i do know that our ambassador susan rice is qualified rhodes scholar, she is a brilliant woman, worked in the national security, within that team. she knows what she's doing, has done her job well, isen a expert and deserves a fair hearing. do not airport her. do not make it appear that she has not done her job when in fact what she was doing was her job. if the president wants to put her name forward she needs a fair hearing and she is such a well-qualified woman that i hope quite frankly that...